That’s all that’s operate. Those are operators. I’m not an operator. I’m, I’m, I’m, I’m more about, you know, going outside the, the, the envelope and, and trying new things and a little bit more risky, you know, which I think is important as a leader, that, that, that you, that you take risks and, you know, calculated risks, obviously. But I think, and, and so that’s, that’s kind of been my philosophy and it’s worked for me to some degree. I, I know I turned down jobs. I’ve turned down several jobs, some big jobs in zoos. And then even before that, I have other friends. I said, Rick, you could have been an attorney, or you could have done this. You know, you had other skills.
