Oh yeah. Well, luckily I think, as I said, I got really lucky, you know, with a, with a mom who helped me with a lot of that early stuff. But, Marie, you know, I met when we were undergraduate, married just before we got into vet school, was extremely tolerant and hugely supportive. And so in the early days before we had a hospital or nursery, all the babies came home. So we had, we had hyenas that we raised and tigers and bears and, you know, pair of giant otter pups in the bathtub. And when, you know, when our daughter, Heather was about eight months old, I brought home a baby orang. So then we had two babies in diapers and on bottles. And when the orang was about eight months old, I brought home a gorilla, babe.