And so Bob Lacy was director of CBSG for about eight years now, Andy Byers is. I think we’ve got about 600 zoos that are supporting CBSG. But CBSG has worked in all kinds of things, like for the Florida panther, New Guinea, Papua New Guinea tree kangaroos, all over, you know, monkey eating Eagles, Tamar owl, Philippine crocks. I mean, they’ve, there’s, and all kinds of frog things. And actually the genesis and early in support for ARKS, you know, the amphibian resource and frog program started with CBSG and was supported by CBSG. And I, you know, if you, a while ago you asked if, if there was one thing I was really, you know, really, really proud of, I guess the other, the other thing would be having the opportunity to participate in the founding of ISIS and the founding of CBSG. That, I guess if you had to be remembered for one thing, you know, maybe other than the big dome or a big jungle building, that’d be the thing because. And it, and, and mostly it had to do not with necessarily just the fact that Ulie was a first-class scientist, but he had the ability to, you know, to, to bring 30, 45, 50, 60 people in a room together, not necessarily get to consensus, but have everybody agree to work together and come out with a product, whether you totally agreed with it or not.
