Well, today you have to be very charismatic. ’cause you’re raising money all the time. Most of the zoos are, are not municipal anymore. So they have to raise their own money. And, and that, I think that is number one is fundraising skills. But you should have a good background in a good knowledge of animals that, I mean, it is you, you have live animals. Is is your core mission, your core, you know, focus in a zoo. So I think I prefer a zoo director that has an animal background and, and, and understands business, but has a good CFO.