You know, it depends on the time period. But I would think that I did okay as a zoo director. ’cause I had good communication skills. You have to have good people skills. It’s not about the animals, it’s about the people. You know, you, you board especially, you have to have a good relationship with your board. I had that. And then just being on the ground, you know, management by walking around that, that, I think that helps a lot. And I cared. I cared about the animals and the people.