Well, Lee Empty is a good friend of mine, so I knew him really well. I convinced him to apply. He, he wasn’t sure ’cause he was really happy in Minnesota, so I, you know, I didn’t have to give Lee advice. I I, I just said, Lee, you got a really good zoo and you got a good boy. He says, but I’m really happy in Minnesota. I said, they want you here. I I I think you should consider it. And you know, he probably would’ve done it anyway.
