Extremely important. I think the Houston Zoo would send more people to workshops and conferences than most zoos of its of its size. You have to be careful ’cause they all want to go to conferences no matter what. But I said if you’re gonna go to a conference, you gotta present something you gotta do or be on a committee. You just can’t go and listen, you know, unless it’s your first time and it’s new. But I, I made a promise to my staff at Long Neck, ’cause I have a small staff that if you’re with me for more than three years and you do a good job, you’re gonna go to Africa in the next few years, I’m gonna send you, I think every keeper needs, ’cause we have African animals. Every keeper that I know would prefer a trip to Africa than a raise.