And the first one I worked very well with, but he didn’t work, work very well with the board. He was a great fundraiser. So then they brought the second one in the banker and we, we did okay together for a while, but in the end it was more of a, it, it seemed to be more of a competition. So it just wasn’t the right fit. We both left the same year and then we, then we combined the positions and Lee MP took both positions and that worked a lot better. But we, we always made the zoo better. It just wasn’t as fun. That, that my my, my first two years and then, and then the last year I felt like I was just working on conservation programs more.
