The beginning and the end. The middle was great. The beginning because I had, there were two years for the city and as that changed, as soon as we privatized, you know, then my, my salary increased dramatically finally. And the, and, and we could, but those, those first two years I had, I had a society that, it was the old society. We, we, we had, we took people from that society and from another group and from, and, and formed this new Houston Zoo Zoological Society. But it was very stressful. ’cause there’s some people that didn’t want to do it, they didn’t understand it, you know, again, they’re comfortable the way things are. It was a lot of work. And, and, and then, and then, and then Bill Barnett said, Rick, the board wants you to be the zoo director, but we need somebody with a more of a stronger business background because this is a big deal. And so you’re gonna have a CEO, but you both report to the board and you work together.