The zoo had opened before I got there. But that was just a small preview center. That’s why I met Dr. Hubble. We talked about him. He was the director at, at a certain point, but then he became, then he decided they had him as education curator. ’cause getting, getting that zoo built, took somebody that had a construction background and knew how to work with a lot of politics. And, and Dr. Hubble was such a straight shooter. They, we needed, we needed some, we needed somebody like Bob Yokel who got the job done. And, but, and then that’s where I met my future life partner Diane.