Well, certainly, certainly management and budgetary skills. I think you need people skills. I think, you know, and I, and that’s probably true, no matter what your, you know, your, your discipline is. I’ve come to the conclusion that, that probably people skills are the most important skills that you can have from the standpoint that you can be, you know, the very best veterinarian or the, you know, or the, or the very best herpetologist or the very best in whatever that there is. I mean, you can be the very smartest, the very best. And if you don’t have people skills, you’re going to end up basically being dependent on what you yourself can do and accomplish by yourself. I mean, the people skills are hugely, hugely important. I mean, that, you know, we’re going to talk a little bit later, but, you know, from the standpoint of guys like Ulie Seale, you know, Ulie’s as I’ve said, Ulie was a, a really good scientist, a biochemist, hematologist, a great, you know, conservation biologists, a good, a good scientist.
