And, you know, and if you can scare them a couple of times along the way, why are really surprised them, then, then they remember, they remember the conservation message if you surprise them or scare them a little bit. And if they’ve had a good time. And, but the big thing is, is that, you know, if you, you know, when we were going to do the aquarium, that experience, you know, in Columbus, Ohio, because for a period of time, you know, I was acting curator of the Arthur C. Johnson Aquarium. But we went to see and we took the other big part of this is, is that, you know, we put together early on a team of an architect and a contractor, and basically we don’t bid anything, never, we didn’t bid anything. Everything’s negotiated. And we’ve had the same team, although individuals came and went in the team, for 35 years or better. And that, and, and so when we went to look at the jungle in the Bronx, you know, Jungle World, or when we were going to do Gorilla Valley, you know, we went to see Congo. We went to, if there was something good to see around the country, you know, we’d figure out a way to not only go ourselves, but we took the, we took the architect with us and we always took the, whoever our superintendent or, or at least the, the managing engineer for the project from the, the construction company was going to be because we weren’t bidding.
