I, I think in the beginning, in the beginning, when I first got into this field, everybody talked about zoos being conservation organizations, but of course it wasn’t true. We weren’t. I mean, you know, basically, basically in those early days, we were basically what we get accused of being of now, we were, you know, we were kind of consumers, although we did breed animals, but, but we really weren’t doing any conservation. We were maintaining, and some places were actually breeding animals and doing well and expanding gene pools. But for the most part, zoos really weren’t conservation organizations. I think the fact that zoos have been, become a major force in conservation, both ex situ, as far as maintaining safety nets and assurance populations and things like that. I mean, something that the Omaha public doesn’t even know about except kind of vaguely because it’s been in the news a little bit. They can’t see it, you know.
