The man from Atlanta. The man from Atlanta. Terry Maple. Terry Maple. He was the one who introduced the term zoo biology into English, into the, I mean English speaking countries. And he also, as you know, established in a a, a journal called Zoo Biology, which still exists. And there was at last one Prima primatologist working at that time at the University of Jewish. His name was, I think Dean Martin, something like that. So did Hane Heger give you any advice By his, his books and publications, but he, I was also very proud that he, after the colloquium wrote me, thanked me and said, there’s finally somebody who has understood what I meant.
