Well, I went to bond to take up the study of zoology or biology, and I was much disappointed that all these interesting animals like gaffes, like hippos, like great Abe, like elephants, they don’t play any role in a university study. So I looked around and, and one the most interesting discipline for me was parasitology the life of two different species, symbiotic or parasitic. However, this was also very fascinating. And I applied in the Institute of Parasitology to make my diploma first and then my PhD.