I’m a, I mean, you know, one that I’ve already touched on and that’s, you know, publish, publish, publish. You know, just get, you know, when you achieve something or even more importantly when you, when you screw up, when it goes wrong, publish that too. I remember standing at a retirement de in at London Zoo when not long started, and Michael Burer, who used to be in charge of education and were so both drink in hand and the retirement speeches I think had just finished. And I dunno how we got onto it, but Michael turned to me and he said, yeah, if, if, if more zoos published their mistakes, there’d be less of them. So I suppose having a willingness to talk about your screw ups and to encourage other people to, so you hopefully can learn from them and, and not repeat them. I think that’s, that was one of the more important lessons, I think.
