They that rare, that really, that really describes it. So I think being able to, when dealing with the general public is to, to get a message and put it into an analogy that they can get their head round. You know, there’s, there’s 10 times more people can sit down and watch a baseball game at Yankee Stadium than actually the numbers of, of that species that exists. So I, I think it’s, it’s making the information relatable. If I was, if if I’m, if I’m trying to explain something to a general audience, that’s generally how I would do it, is put it into terms that I know they can get their head around.