The, the, the UK Zoo Association was threatening to create a UK keeper training course for many years. Nothing ever happened. And so myself and three other colleagues from Scotland, Graham Law, Billy Matheson and and Mike Clark, we decided, right, we’re gonna do it. You know, we’ll, we’ll, we’ll make the change. And we did it initially through the, the UK and Irish Keepers Association. And we basically embarrassed the, the British Zoo Association, the, the Federation, as it was known then now called baa. We embarrassed them into actually being part of this process. And now, you know, we ended up with this correspondence course that is used internationally on a more extreme level. When I referred to it earlier, the, when the decision was made by the great and the good, many of which would sit and make the decision in this room about closing London Zoo.
