And he had the audience in stitches about talking about port of snail conservation, the story of, of saving the port of snail. And so in vertebrates are, are definitely not my area of expertise, but I look at what Paul and his team and, and what other places now have done, some of which had quite a bit of exposure or one of Paul’s team went on to, you know, manage inverts at Bristol Zoo or wherever. And that those talents, those skills that that emphasis on the, the, the tiny and obscure became as important as the focus on the big and the fluffy. And I think that’s that I think it, it demonstrated to me that one, everything is important, all species, no matter how insignificant one might think they are. But it was also the ability that for want of a better term, you can sell that to the public. You can sell that to the, to the government, you know, partial a snail or, you know, field cricket conservation is as important and as interesting a story to tell As Gorilla conservationists, You’ve talked about architecture and your knowledge.
