When people think of conservation, they think of, of, you know, rhinos and elephants and tigers, and I think it’s for a zoo that wants to make a contribution, there’s, is there any point in dev in, you know, giving your, devoting your resources on top of what everybody else is doing for tiger conservation, for example. And there was the, there’s a, a curator here, pul Pierce Kelly, and he, him and his team basically raised the profile of invertebrate conservation virtually single-handedly, certainly within a UK arena. And I remember watching Paul on it was a a, a talk show, the Terry Wogan show. It was like the, the, the the Tonight Show of the UK, if you like. And, and they had Paul on there with a, with a ulous snail. And, and Paul, and he won’t mind me saying this, he is a zoological Mr. Bean, you know, he’s, he’s, he’s hugely informative, incredibly funny, and with wonderfully eccentric mannerisms. And Paul is in front of this audience with a, a tiny wee snail the size of your thumbnail. And he’s waxing lyric.