You open up the books, you let them go job done others soft releases, training, training them to avoid predators. You know, the, I was involved to a degree with the Vancouver Island Marmite reintroduction breeding for reintroduction project when I was working in, in British Columbia. And, and the first animals that we could breed them in captivity, no problem. You know, the first ones that got released, they’d come out of their hibernation chambers and look up and there was a golden eagle overhead and they’d just sit there and watch the eagle as it came down and got them, or the wolf or the mountain lion. And so having to come up with a method for teaching them to avoid predators involve the 12 volt car battery and the taxidermy specimen so that they were negatively reinforced. And that changed the survival rate in the wild black rhinos. Rob Brett, who was affiliated to some degree with Theological Society of London, he was involved with black rhino transfers in Laikipia in Kenya, and they had major problems when they released the rhino and, you know, they would run into conflict with maybe some resident rhinos or they didn’t stay put. And I said, and I was chatting with ’em or I think a beer in the pub, and I said, well, I said, when we get a rhino in a zoo, before you let out the crate, you take a load of the feces out of the enclosure and you put it near the gate so you don’t have as far to walk with a wheelbarrow.
