So you use the resources you have for the time that you have them and to the best of your ability. And good private people, I think are crucial because it allows us to actually expand the sizes of the populations we have as zoos lean more towards the a, b, c animals, the big charismatic stuff when it comes to the, the small and, and interesting but you know, maybe not a big hook for the public. I think that’s when, when private holders really come into their own ’cause you’re able to augment populations. When I was here in London Zoo had win an extensive small mammal collection and, and quite a number of rodent species. And we’d keep, you know, one exhibit colony and then say a mini downs river mouse for example, one exhibit colony, two off exhibit colonies. But then we’d also have relationships with private holders so that we were able to expand the population. ’cause to be frank, not many zoos were managing many downs river mice. So, you know, the private community for us managing a small mammal collection was crucial.
