I mean obviously like, like zoos, there’s good zoos, there’s bad zoos, there’s good private breeders or private holders, there’s bad ones and it’s incredibly easy to differentiate between the, the good, the bad and the ugly. And I think for, I mean you, I mean I’m, you know, my background has primarily been with mammals. But you know, having an informed look at how the, you know, the Herpetological zoo community or the bird community works, that having private people involved with some of these programs is often they can actually do better with those species than we have done in the regular zoo community. So I think private breeders have a very significant role to play. There is an argument made that, well it’s all down to one individual and you know, what if that person dies or they lose interest or they go bankrupt or whatever it might be. Well that happens to zoos as well. I mean, you know, the place we were in, we are in now, I mean it came very close to closing in 19 91, 92. So, you know, even these traditional zoos, they, they don’t necessarily have a guarantee of, of longevity.
