I think, I mean the, the one that I think initially caused me the most concern was that historically keepers were never listened to. You know, you were there to do the grunt work, you were not part of the decision making process or even able to make a contribution that has, in a large part changed in good zoos. It has changed. I’ve seen a lot of good people historically leave the profession because they couldn’t afford to be zookeepers anymore. You know, they were, you know, getting married, gonna have kids, and financially it just didn’t work anymore. That’s changed in many places, maybe not as much as it could. Certainly not in the uk, I don’t think on a bigger issue. I think there are, I mean, I remember the first conversation I had with a, a zoo director and one that I worked for about the potential use of euthanasia. There’s a number of topics that zoos won’t engage with, certainly not outside of a professional audience.
