I said, well, I’ve, I’ve always been interested in zoo architecture, but I taught myself how to read a plan, how to alter it, how to use tracing paper to basically come up with something new, another be kind to the maintenance department. That’s absolutely crucial. When you want a nest box made for something, you, you, you want them on side. You know, you want them to be interested. You, you want them to know that you respect their skills, which rolls into never be too proud to learn from anyone. When I was working in Singapore, we had to catch up all of the false gals. I was having the area modified, so we had a better chance of breeding them. But we had to, you know, we were creating barriers.
