So I actually applied for the assistant curator, ’cause I thought that sounded better, but they wanted me for a collection manager position. So that was, I suppose the, my first foray into a curatorial position. But though I got promotion, a lot of my colleagues lost their job. So it was, one couldn’t, there was little cause for celebration at the time, if you know what I mean. But in 1995, you’re now curator of mammals at the London Zoo.
