He said, that might come next year. So it was, it was a, I thought at that point that’s in my zoo career. I thought that I’d, I made it, this, this was, you know, no one had done this before and, and you’re at London’s, the Zoological Society of London with all the history behind it, you’re now a head keeper there. But in 1991 you become the collection manager at the London Zoo. There was a, this was the start of the financial, real financial troubles at the zoo. And so there was a huge, there was a major redundancy program of animals and people, about a third of the staff lost their jobs, including some of the curators. They created new positions that we all had to apply for. So I applied for one of the animal collection manager.
