My opinion of London Zoo had changed. We’d always kind of, in the Scottish contingent, we’d always seen it. No, we had good friends down here. We’d always seen it as a wee bit too regimented. But Dudley Zoo was not, was, was not well funded. The senior management team, the, the chief executive in particular was a very un unpleasant individual. And so I knew that Ernie Swain, who was the head keeper of, of carnivores, the Winehouse here at London, I knew he was retiring and I applied for the job even though they’d never advertised it. And London had never advertised a head keeper position ever.
