My first interaction with, with Bill Conway was amusing and unfortunate. They had not finished, opened Wild Asia and they had it a weird system, Astor, who had basically bankrolled the, the Wild Asia project. She’d given some money for a party, but they couldn’t have everybody there. So if you’d worked at, at in Wild Asia, 11 times or more, you got invite to the party. And as luck would have it, because the way the keeper system worked there on the mammals, you would get dodged about from section to section. And so I’d done 11 times at Wild Asia.
