’cause he knew all the guys in the circus. So it was, it was that, it was that first look behind the curtain as to how worked, and I mean all that did was, you know, it just made me even more wildly interested to find out more to be, to be part of that community. So now your career, 1975 to 1980, you were a keeper at the Edinburgh, the Bronx and Loman Wildlife.
