But no, so I’m still involved. I still go to try to go to some a ZA meetings. I missed a few, but I do go, because I’m a past chair, they let me go to the director’s policy conference. I do like that. And I know the, of the 2, 250 people come, I probably only know about 25, but I meet some new ones. I meet the young new directors. That’s kind of fun. So I enjoy that and I’m glad they let me go to those. I really do enjoy it. They’re always in nice places. Like, this was last year was in Santa Barbara, so it was beautiful.
