You know, they kind of big guys and bad suits that would come in and be the big gorillas and, but I got along with them. Okay. Not because I was, I wasn’t really the head person. ’cause Metro Parks had their own labor attorneys that did a lot of it. And it was always with us if we, if we had an issue. But I got to learn about the Teamsters Union when, if we had a bad employee that we had to do something with, they wanted us to get rid of ’em. But they couldn’t say that because they would get sued, you know, so they had to kind of, you know, beat their chest and kind of wink at us. Yeah, we’ll let this one go, but we gotta fight for ’em. So once I learned that about the teamsters and, and again, because Metro Parks really took well, paid their people well and had great benefits.