We always, obviously a lot of people can have a lot of applicants for keepers. But we got keepers with five years experience and, and great keepers and some, some we promote it within. And then of course when I was there we just had like three curators and they’ve changed that now and have two full curators and six or three, three full curators and six assistant curators now. And those, most of those came from other zoos. One of the full-time cur, well two of the curators have been there a long time now. And Tad Schaffner was there when I was there. He’s had like 45 years in the Cleveland Zoo and he stayed, well be and and then another one came when I was there. And then the third full curator now is has, is a PhD.
