I mean he told this guy to, you know, 24-year-old curator to try to do that. So I was calling people like Georgia RAP or whatever they thought I was crazy. And, but you know, it was, it was great training and I’m sure that had a lot to do with me going up to San Francisco and getting a management job after that. Secondly, I wanna say Cleveland Metro Park Zoo had no problem getting curators. One, we paid people well and, and two, we had a lot of people that wanted to come back. We, we, we were able to hire people and particularly even keepers because we were a Kester Union Zoo. We paid very well, had great benefits. So staffing at the Cleveland Metro Park Zoo may have been a little different and not as difficult as other zoos.
