I think Mark’s probably half and half, you know, people who came like me through the ranks or were animal people and probably half business people. We’ve also, as you know, know in Lincoln Park in New York, we actually had in San Diego Partica, we’ve had some real failures that didn’t last very long as business people that came into the zoo world and, and they didn’t get the culture right away. You have to understand the culture. You have to go to a ZA meetings, you know, they, they might not wanna do that though. I’ll let the animal people go. But they really have to be part of that organization, I think to be successful because you have to understand the culture of zoos. It’s not like any other business, you know. So unless you understand that it would be the same if you were a natural history museum director or a botanical garden director, you, you gotta understand what that is and, and, and, and, and have some, at least some interest in the mission and the goals of the zoo.
