I mean, even when I started in, in Cleveland 35 years ago or whatever, you know, the records were on three by five cards, you know, and then we started having ISIS where we had those little computer cards. You stick in a machine and stuff. And of course now it’s all done through zims and, and those kind of things. And you know, every day is some technology develops that improves the zoo. So technology is something that’s really changed. Laws have changed, you know, the endangered species that came in in the seventies. So zoo directors had to be aware of that and how that worked. The difficulties of working through the bureaucracy of the federal government to bring in animals.
