Oh, I, I, from the time I was probably in San Francisco, I read a lot of management books all, all my life. And again, as I mentioned, one time Pa Peggy Burkes at the San Francisco got us trained in management by objectives. So I, I knew about planning and how to organize your day and all that. So I had some basics, but I kept learning more and more things. Like there was, there’s just times I wasn’t the best. But I, you know, I, I tried and I tried to learn things too. I was, I was somewhat, my management style has probably changed a little bit, but not enough in a sense. If you take any of the Myers-Briggs tests, if I took ’em 20 years ago too, I took ’em now.