And I did what I could do really. And I loved it. I loved Sacramento. I would’ve, if we could have done a little bit more expansion, I would’ve probably stayed there forever. I loved the city, I loved who I worked for. And, but it was just a small zoo. And they came, I got recruited a guy named Dave Lauder back from corn. It was Korn Ferry at the time was a recruiting. And he interviewed me at the mill. They interviewed me at the Milwaukee conference and then invited me out to come interview in in Cleveland, which I did.
