I don’t know if he was in Detroit, but he was somewhere and he actually, I think he was in Detroit and he thought California would be great. And so he looked into the job. The, the city manager was named Walter Sle. And he had interviewed the job and he decided, no, it’s too small of a zoo. I don’t wanna leave Detroit for the small zoo in Sacramento. But, and Walter asked him about if he knew anybody else. I said, I think you should hire Steve Taylor. And so I went and interviewed and then got the job, which was, I, now, now I really felt I dod me.