And again, working, being in the management team of the zoo society, you had the development people, you had the concessions people, XO yang, he was, you know what he chow taught me one thing, how to count money. You always, you always take your money and you put it in orders, you know, the face up, you have to keep ’em all in order and all the way like that. He was very meticulous about that. I’ve always done that on my wallet. And, and then we had the Laura LaMarca, it was the education person. So we were the, might have been some, there might have been another person involved, but that was the management team of the zoo society. And so those were important functions. And so, and so I, we were at staff meetings all the time and it also gave me the opportunity to go on my first safari.
