And, and quite often in the zoo world, it’s hard to find collaborators. I’ll be very honest with you. And it, and it’s kind of frustrating because we’re all fighting, fighting limited res resources. We’re all trying to accomplish the same thing. But quite often we don’t want to, we don’t want to collaborate or collaboration ends when the zoo director moves on to, to something else. And that, that relationship doesn’t continue with the other zoo. You know, I by all means, I think increasing collaboration with private other countries, whatever, if it really does move conservation forward and, you know, propagation forward of endangered species, I’m all for it.
