The zoo director, zoo staff, to go see how other zoos are doing it, be it good or be it bad to talk to peers. You know, quite often I would go to the zoo and not tell my peer I was coming. I just wanted to sneak around being a member of the public to see, ’cause you know, otherwise you tell ’em you’re coming. They give you a good dog and pony show. Okay. I mean, we’re, we’re, we’re very proud. We’re very egotistical. We wanna show the best for to our coworkers. And there’s nothing wrong with that to, I mean, to our, to our, you know, cohorts and to our, our peers. But sometimes I just wanna go and see how they’re really, really doing it to the general John Q.
