By always being honest with them. Okay. I mean, I knew editors, news anchors, news people, radio personalities. I mean, I was, I did at least four radio interviews every week. At least two or three TV live appearances every week. Okay. So I was out there constantly connected. You know, they let me in the back door into the newsroom instead of coming through the front door of the building ’cause oh, it’s chappo. Okay. So I was always talking to them. Every now and then I take an animal in, or we take some, or they’d come and get footage at the zoo.
