Even if it was, as you started at Potawatomi as a volunteer in 1972, I knew in sixth grade I wanted to be a zoo guy. I knew in because of all the books I was reading and, and going to zoos and, you know, my folks would take me to a zoo and they’d go, you know, every animal here, you know, every species that it is. I mean, you can identify, you know, whatever it is. You know, because I read and read and read constantly and just wanted to get exposed to, to, to, to animals in nature. I knew in sixth grade that I wanted to be a zoo guy. Okay. It’s as simple as that. And so I wrote, you know, when I was in my early teens, like I said, 14, 15, I wrote a couple letters to the zoo director at the zoo thing. I wanna come volunteer. I wanna come volunteer.