People didn’t like spiders and snakes, you know, it sounds like a, sounds like a song. You know, I don’t like spiders or snakes. And so, especially when I was in high school, I actually acquired some tortoises. There was a animal dealer, reptile dealer in Fort Wayne, Indiana, Larry Lance and Midwest Reptile. And I would go with some friends and drive down there. And I came back with, you know, an elongated tortoise and a red foot tortoise. And, and you could, that was back in the days when you could order up baby hatchlings and just ship to you in the mail. Okay. So I had a little bit of everything, especially turtles and, or little lizards.
