And my brother and I, I dunno if you’re familiar with, have a heart traps. The good old have a heart traps that live catch of animals didn’t hurt the animal, but it was a live catch. Well just became very interested in what was around. And so we got some have a heart traps and would set them out, you know, in the field, field behind us for the forest behind us to see what we could catch. And we always used a can of sardines and you punch holes in it and wire that in there so the animal couldn’t take it off him. And then we made a little observation pen too, that when we caught the animal, we would put them in the observation pen for a while. And we caught everything from raccoons and skunks, possum box turtles, you know, a little bit of everything. And so, and my parents, God bless them, my, my mom in particular really loved animals.