There’s, there’s knowing everything about an animal’s natural history in the wild and knowing what habitat they live in, but that can be different than the adaptations that you need to make to, to have animals in human care and substituting our environment for the national environment. And that’s where, that’s where animal husbandry comes in. And for zoo animals that’s something that it’s, it’s nice to have a curator with, with that husbandry experience. And, and it’s absolute, I I would say it’s absolutely necessary within the management structure to have that expertise. I’ve, I’ve worked with curators that had nothing but the scientific zoology side. They studied animals in nature and they knew the biology and had little to no experience managing a, a living collection. And it, and it can work if that comes from somewhere else along the management chain, you know, so you have an associate curator that’s worked with this taxonomic group for 30 years, started out as a keeper, you know, then you can have the, that partnership between the curator and, and an associate keeper, an associate curator, a lead keeper or others to, to supplement their knowledge of the animal’s situation in the wild.