I, I think things have, things have really advanced and, and I think one of the, of the keys in interpretation is, is not just, you know, kind of going over a natural history of these animals and quoting from walker’s, mammals of the world on, on habitat or the size of a, of a litter in animal X, but trying to, trying to reach people in a different way to try and develop the, the connection with the animal. And, and so, and of course the technology is all changed, you know, there are screens where we can do interpretations, we can put information about animals and, and actually have that projected on the, you know, on the, the, the front of the exhibit so that, you know, you can see that kind of superimposed on the penguins as they’re swimming by, you know, so, so it’s taking advantage of the tech, of the technology and technological changes. But I think also trying to develop the personal connection with the animals. What would be a personal connection with the animals, Having some, you know, having exhibits with small birds, small reptiles that are kind of on a kid’s level. I brought my children to the zoo as I was a, a budding zoo veterinarian growing up at Lincoln Park. Now I bring my grandchildren to the zoo and seeing it through their eyes, you know, seeing that, you know, the light bulb that goes off when, you know, when they find the animal in the exhibit. And it, and it’s sort of those magical moments where, you know, perhaps the, perhaps the animal isn’t remembering your grandchild’s name, but your grandchild remembers that particular animal and you know, it, it, it makes an impression on them. The, recently the Brookfield Zoo Chicago has developed a new simple three word, what we call our mantra, which is connect care and conserve.