I, in, in some places they’ve been spectacularly successful. California condors, you know, has has been one of those and, but it’s not, you know, it’s never gonna be the primary way that we save the wild because you have to, you always have to attack the issue that caused the decline in the wild in the first place. You know, if we, if we had the space to reproduce lots of animals like black-footed ferrets, California condors, if, if you don’t solve some of the problems that cause the decline in the first place, then you’re not gonna be able to address the program or address the problem. So I, I think where zoos can really be helpful is trying to both reproduce animals that might be a, a rescue population or a replace a replenishment population, but trying to better understand the problem that caused the decline in the first place and attack that politically. You know, in the case of the condors, it was lead shot from hunting that caused, you know, these obligate carin eaters to be exposed to lead. And that was really the cause for the population declines. So collaborating with hunters and, and hunter’s organization looking at lead free shot and, and doing things to mitigate that can make it make it the possibility that the reintroduction will be successful because they’re not facing the same challenges that happened originally In some larger zoos. There’s many veterinarians working within the zoo.