I think, and I’ll also speak here, one of the things that I’ve done with a ZA is I’ve been a part of and now an advisor to the A ZA safety committee since that committee was created. And animal escapes is a, a key part of that. The biggest role of a veterinarian in animal escapes is prevention exhibit design, you know, and beyond, beyond prevention, beyond trying to understand animal’s capabilities, developing, developing plans for how to effectively deal with animal escapes, particularly dangerous animal escapes. One, one thing that I’ve been a proponent of recently, it’s, and, and this is an experience that I’ve had part of zoo medicine, and it was a much more important part early on in my career, is being able to get drugs into an animal at a distance. We used, we used to use old metal darts that we fired out of a modified BB gun, then we developed into things that we blew out of a blow pipe and other things that were less traumatic and more effective. But part of the things that a zoo veterinarian has to use on a regular basis is e equipment to shoot a dart into an animal to inject antibiotics or whatever, or anesthetics. And one of the, one of the pieces of feedback that I’ve heard on from the safety committee is, well, we want to get our veterinarians to practice for animal escapes, but they go, we don’t need to practice. We use, we use dart guns all the time.
